2008 European Team Cup - Glasgow - Scotland

[Baillie, Stevie]

As hosting country this year, Scotland will have multiple teams in all 3 categories (Mens, Masters & Ladies).
Once the team numbers are confirmed and agreed with EBSA then we will post up all team qualifiers for their acceptance.

European Team Cup will run from Sunday 30th March to Saturday 5th of April 2008 at The Craigpark Masters Snooker Club, Glasgow.
Tables will be dismantled and removed to accomodate spectating areas.
There will be 16 Match Tables and 4 Practice Tables - all fitted with steel block cushions and strachan 6811 Match Cloth.

Can All the players listed in the various Teams Below, please confirm or decline acceptance to this years ETC event.
Once acceptance is posted, you will be "confirmed in Red".

Please note: Mens Teams are provisional for now: Can only be set in stone at conclusion of event 6.

Mens Teams

A Team
1. Robert Stephen
Richy McDonald - Unable to attend
2. Bobby Cruickshanks
3. Ian wells

B Team
1. Thomas McSorley
2. Ross Vallance
3. Anthony McGill


C Team
1. Scott Dunbar
Ian Bowie - Unable to play
2. Robert Carlisle
3. Jason Hood

D Team
1. Mark Boyle
2. Dawud Qadir
Callum Niven - Unable to play due to work
Stevie Baillie - Staying in The Masters A Team
3. Alan Hall

Masters Teams

A Team
1. Sean Boxall
2. Stevie Baillie

B Team
Mick Maguire - Unable to play due to work
1. Bob McCabe
2. Davie Hutchison

C Team

1. Crawford Mitchell
2. Martin Cook

D Team

1. Paul Jamieson
2. Jim Meikle
Scott Hughes - On Holiday
George Smith - Working
Gordon Bain - Unable to Play
Alex Coutts - Working

Ladies Teams

A Team
Julie Gillespie - On Holiday
1. AnneMarie Reilly
2. Claire Mill

B Team
1. Joanne Baillie
2. Hollie Riddell

[Boxall, Sean]

Hi Stevie, I would like to confirm my place in the Masters team 1 for forthcoming event. Thanks, Sean.

[Baillie, Stevie]

No prob Lads that's you both confirmed.
(no Jokes please Davie!)

Hey Sean - You and I are taking this one out mate!
You up for it?

Ok Ok Davie - We'll meet your team in the final :p

[Cruickshanks, Bobby]

just to confirm that i will be playing in this event.

[Baillie, Stevie]

I'll confirm you just now but your team position will be confirmed after conclusion of event 6.
Cheers

[Mitchell, Crawford]

Stevie,

I confirm attendance at forthcoming team event.

regards

Crawford.

[Cook, Martin]

Hi stevie , just to confirm that i will be playing at this event .

cheers

martin :)

[Baillie, Stevie]

Cheers mate.
That's you confirmed.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Thanks Mate.
That's you also confirmed.

[McGill, Anthony]

I'll play in this, cheers.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Well in.
That's you confirmed.

[Dunbar, Scott]

Put My Name Down As Well Mr Baillie .

[Baillie, Stevie]

Done - Bar!

[Baillie, Stevie]

Love your confidence though!

[McGill, Anthony]

Is the Masters getting to keep the new tables once the European tourneys are finished?

[Stephen, Robert]

i confirm my place

[Baillie, Stevie]

No

PS They aint New Tables, just originals with Steel Blockers and New 6811 Gold Matchcloth.

AND NEW BALLS

[Baillie, Stevie]

Cheers
That's you confirmed in Red.
Ta

[Boyle, Mark]

Put my name down for this! Hopfully we can go one better this time!!!

[Baillie, Stevie]

That's you confirmed in Red also bud.
Sure hope you "go one better" this time round.
We must have a good chance this year - On home soil !

[Bowie, Ian]

It is with regret that I confirm I will not be taking part in this event. I have a new job in London which I start on April 1 (Yeah yeah April fools's day). The next tournament will also, most probably be my last in scottish snooker for the forseeable future as I don't think I'll be able to make the national.

Still my loss is somebody else's gain and hopefully next man on the rankings will be able to grab the opportunity with both hands. I wish all teams and players well for the tournament.

I'd just like to say that I've some tremendous times through snooker and I've met a lot of top-drawer people, I wish all of scottish snooker well for the future and I hope one day I will be back.

I luv you all!!!!!

Bowie

[McSorley, Thomas]

Count me in for the ETC. A will b there.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Sorry to see you go Ian, one of the genuinely nice fella's in the game.
Great that you nailed down the job.
Eddie was telling me just last week at the Refs meeting.
All the very best to you from me bud.

See you around mate.

PS keep in touch through the website.
Good Luck.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Ok Bud, that's you in !
Gawn na Gun!

[Baillie, Stevie]

McSorley, Dunbar & Hood in the one team!

Just hope the cushions can handle it!

[Mill, Claire]

Hiya Stevie


Just confirming that i can play in european team cup. Cheers Claire.

[Jamieson, Paul]

Just to confirm i will be taking part in this event.:D

[Jamieson, Paul]

Best of luck with your new job Ian, Watch out London town !:D

[Stephen, Robert]

all the best ian,had some great games against you mate,and i hope london works out well for you buddy.

[McGill, Anthony]

All the best, take it easy :).

[Bowie, Ian]

Thanks very much for your kind words.

Of course i'll keep in touch, and I'll be keeping my eye out for all the scores and progress of Scottish Snooker and it's players as well.

Ian

[Bowie, Ian]

All the best, take it easy :).

Cheers Ants.

Ian

[Bennett, John]

All the best Ian, i don't really know you but i know you have a bit of talent and from what the others are saying you are a very decent guy, so whatever you choose in life may it be succesful. Good luck.

[Bowie, Ian]

Much appreciated, thanks.

Ian

[Wells, Ian]

wells will be in attendance :cool:

[Niven, Callum]

Sorry to say I won't be able to make this. Canna believe it. First time an event like this in Scotland for aboot 8 years and i'll no be able to play.

Will still be doin ma teacher training placements and if I take a week off i'll hav a nervous breakdown tryin to catch up (i'm not exaggerating).

Good luck to all playing - all the best!

And good luck to ian. Yer a good lad - sorry to hear you're off mate. Keep playing and keep in touch.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Claire, Paul and Ian, that's you 3 confirmed in Red.
Thanks

Callum - Sorry you can't make it bud, especially when in home soil.
As they say - One man's loss is another man's gain - and all that.......

Richy - Sorry mate, but the closing date for entries is Sunday the 24th of Feb. We need to submit ALL entries to the European Committee on Monday 25th.
It's not a Board decision - it's all down to closing dates and restrictions.
We also need to confirm all the players with stats and pictures to the printers next week.
Would love to see you making it, as it would obviously be very beneficial that we line up with the strongest possible teams.
Which your inclusion would most certainly ensure.

Have a wee think and see how your feeling about committing to it. But need your decision by Sunday.
It's just the circumstances of the organising of the event.
I'm sure you can see the problems and the reason why we need confirmed entries.
Hear from you soon.
Cheers.

[Baillie, Stevie]

It's even more complicated because your late omission would have a knock on effect over the other 3 teams and makes draws and programme printing a nightmare for all concerned.
I can't speak for all the other countries, all I know is that Scotland will be running the event under the EBSA guidelines, rules and Entry closing dates.

Sorry mate, but you have a decision to make.
Not easy I can appreciate, but with 4 International events to organise for Scotland, I'm sure you will yourself appreciate that decision have to be made.

[Reilly, AnneMarie]

Hi Stevie, can you put my name down for this event please.

Thanks.

Good luck with the new job Ian hope all goes well for you.... Will miss ya you're one of the good guy's! Take care. All the best.....
:)

[Baillie, Stevie]

No Prob Bud
That's it done.
Thanks

[Baillie, Stevie]

Following your last 2 posts.
You can have up to Midnight on Sunday the 24th of February. :rolleyes:
The closing date for entries to be submitted to the European Association.

[Carlisle, Robert]

just like to confirm my place
cheers stevie

[Baillie, Stevie]

Can you stop the tosh posts mate.
The EUROPEAN BILLIARDS & SNOOKER ASSOCIATION have an entry cut off date for these events.
Unfortunately, for Scottish Snooker Admin and the pursuance of entering our BEST teams - We are all bound by these restrictions.
Would help all round if EVERYONE respectfully acknowledged this - even if they don't agree or if it does not suit them personally.
Cheers

[Baillie, Stevie]

I personally would love to see you play mate.
So would anyone interested in the furtherance of Scottish Snooker.
But please acknowledge the EBSA have their dates for ALL events they run.
Cheers

Remember "Everything happens for a reason!"

[Baillie, Stevie]

Ok Mate
Thats you confirmed in Red.
Cheers

PS Remember positions can and probably will change after Sunday's last 16 in Top 64 Event 6.
Good Luck

[Baillie, Stevie]

What the EBSA, IBSF and any other International Organisation do when players withdraw at the last minute is: Make the best of it and push on with the event for the obvious enjoyment of all others concerned.
Although, they are always well miffed in such circumstances.
Therefore, no NGB would want to get involved in that sort of scenario if it could be helped.
Scottish Snooker currently has excellent relationships with the main International Associations - that is why over the last few years, we have been one the countries that they can rely on to provide extra players at the drop of a hat.
I am beginning to get fed up repeating this - But........
This competition has a closing date, it's a simple call - A player either enters or does not.

Obviously with Richy's situation, would it not be more sensible to go seek a doctors advice and experience on his recovery period, cross reference it with the date of the tournament and then sensibly make the decision whether to enter or not?
Rather than continually bleat on about it on here.

As a reminder to all: ETC Closing Date is Midnight on Sunday 24th February.
I wont be adding any more information to this subject, as it must make for boring reading to others with the continual repetitivness of the situation.
Richy please call or PM with any further enquiries please.
Cheers

[Baillie, Stevie]

Sorry mate I got lost in all the transcribe.

Rule Is:
Entries need to be in on or before the Tournament Closing Date.
Any country not sending in their entries on the official forms will not participate in the event and reserve players listed from those countries who have sent in on time will be balloted if required to make up numbers.

With it being a team event, I'm sure even you might see that it is even more important that the other 2 team members do not lose out due to only 2 entrants in a 3 man team.
Therefore as Chairman I am sure that you will rest easy that I am looking after the interests of all members fortunate enough to be in a position to committ to an event - thus maintaining Scotlands good relations in these dealings.

It really is quite incredulous that some people do not understand how closing dates work for International Events.
It aint difficult - Just common sense.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Thanks for your decision - finally.

All countries are asked to nominate Reserve Players.
They are then brought into the event by ballot THE DAY AFTER the closing date if the competition is unsubscribed or some countries fail to enter on time.

No International Association runs tournaments with Reserves somehow hanging on the sidelines. They are in the day after the closing date.
Hope that helps you avoid your misunderstanding.

Richy - I more than most can empathise with your want and frustration, if I were in the same position I would most probably feel the exact same way.
It's a shame that once again I personally bare the brunt of players frustrations, but surely you can see that all I am doing is what is required of me from our NGB's hand-tied position.
I would always want Scotlands current best players representing at all times.
But in this instance and given your own present circumstances, that is unattainable given EBSA Entry closing dates and requirements.

[Qadir, Dawud]

count me in for the european championship

cheerws for the call stevie

[Baillie, Stevie]

Thanks for that mate.
I'll bare that in mind for future correspondence and try and learn/improve my conduct/manner when dealing with it.

I honestly dont mean to have a dig at anyone or insinuate any of what you state. Although I can appreciate some would take it that way when I have to continually repeat the same obvious stuff, because it seems to fall on deaf ears (eyes!)

Promise i will try to do better in future. Will you?

[Baillie, Stevie]

I'm finished - Have the last word - your welcome to it.
Now I can get on with organising the events.

[Baillie, Stevie]

"One can't help ones nature"

Most of your posts confirm that statement.

Cheers

[Reilly, Jim]

I can see that this thread has only brought confusion to our game.:
Stevie: As Chairman of Scottish Snooker, i believe is only acting according to the rules set out by the governing bodies and can only act upon the rules ( as he has stated in his posts).
Richy: Very comendable bud on how you want to play for SCOTLAND, but can't commit due to health (recovery from major operation).
John: Don't know why you are getting involved, as i remember, this was a discussion between Richy and Stevie (who as Chairman was asked the questions by Richy).

There is no doubt that SCOTLAND would always be a fantastic team with you Richy playing, but the rules state that the team names must be in at the deadline and other players are noted as reserves in case another team/country pulls out, and in your case when you have just had a major op mate, I think your health has to come first, after all 'its just a game of snooker'.
I hope i haven't tread on anyones toes here, but I love the passion from you guys.
Can we try and remember though that this web site is open to the public and potential sponsers and we dont come across as being negative or conflicting, surley thats why we have PM's so we can conduct that sort of things in PRIVATE.

By the way, hope you get better soon Richy.

Jim

[Maguire, Michael]

Unfortunately as much as i would love to compete in this
event i am unable & cant afford to take the time off work.

I hope that whoever takes my place will enjoy
the wealthy experience competing in such a
prestegious event.

I wish all the very best of luck.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Thanks for your post mate.
Real sorry to see you can't make it Bud, you and I have had some great times playing together and against each other at these sort of Full International events.
You've never given anything less than your best effort when taking part in any of these events, and for that you'll be missed.
Sean, myself and all the rest of the lads will be doing our best for the "Auld Yins".
Although, I just received the Wales Teams entries - It's Darren Morgan and Phil Williams in their Masters Team.
So I will predict at this point that anyone lifting the Masters European Trophy will need to have beaten these two guys.
Just hope me and Sean get a crack at them. I love playing Darren, as you need to be at the top of your game to compete with him.
All the best to you and Nicola Bud.
See you soon.

[Qadir, Dawud]

just to confirm my place in the european cup

[Baillie, Stevie]

OK Big Chap, that's you confirmed - Get practicing.
Make a name for yourself - Just like California!
Cheers

[Riddell, Hollie]

Just confirming my placve is this event.
Hollie

[Baillie, Stevie]

Great stuff kiddo.
I'll tell Joanne she will be well pleased.
That's you now confirmed in Red.
Thanks

[McGill, Anthony]

Any idea when the draws are?

[Baillie, Stevie]

Over the weekend.
European Group do them not Scotland.
They should not be any longer than midweek, next week.

[Stephen, Robert]

is there an opening ceremony planned? if so were is it?

[Baillie, Stevie]

Opening Ceremony is in The Jury's Inn Hotel on Saturday the 29th of March 2008 at 7:30pm.
All details will be sent out to all players competing early next week.

Meanwhile we are looking for anyone willing to take out an advert in the official programme to help with printing costs.

Quarter Page - £75
Half Page - £125
Full Page - £200

[Poulain, Yannick]

Hello My Scottish Friends!

Dont know yet where to post this (Stevie will probably move it later) but I wanted to say a big HELLO to you all.

I, unfortunately, wont play in this tourny cos of personal reasons (and others...) but it would have been a pleasure to enter in and come to your wonderful country!

I wish you all a great success, wonderful tourny i'm sure it will be, and victory for a Scottish team!

So, dont know yet where I can talk with friends here but i'll find the clue of it and have a lot of chats, in friendship and snooker.
Think this is a great forum, a scottish forum to talk about snooker, what can i get more than this to talk snooker with friends!!
In fact, talking snooker, playing snooker and more in my country is bored me now so I hope you will welcome me and talk a lot.

So, as Stevie says, Keep your head down and enjoy the game!:D

Thanks Stevie to have invited me here!

My best regards to you all who know me and the others as well.

Yannick

[Poulain, Yannick]

Aaaaaaahhhh Here comes my Big Friend from Scotland, who welcome me first!! Thats starting great!
Mister Richy "The Master" Mc Donald!!!

I will probably open a new thread or maybe you can do it to welcome me Mate?

[Higgins, Patrick]

Pat Higgins here Scottish Snooker board member look forward to readind your posts my son Ross would also like to welcome you to the Scottish Snooker website sorry you cant make the toury look forward to meeting you in the future . Ross thinks he remembers you from the Snooker Academy a couple of years ago .:)

[Poulain, Yannick]

Thank you Pat!
Hello to Ross! Will have the pleasure of meeting him in the future!

I'll do my best to come back in international!
To be honest, your messages to me (you all), the warm welcome, make me thinking about coming back in international tournies more than playing in my country, for my country, thats becoming more a personal friendship participation than being number 1 in my country and represent it!

I'm thinking about coming to Glasgow for a weekend with family or alone to meet you all again!
Sure i can find a hotel near the venue!
And if I come with family, my son will come too, he is 1 yo now. If he puts a foot on the scottish floor, you will be able to say: "Waouh, i've already met the "World Snooker Champion 2026" when he came with his father in Glasgow! It was in 2008":D

Ok, next time will meet you in Prestatyn for Home International! For France or for Pontins, I dont know yet!

[Riddell, Hollie]

Due to unforseen circumstances i can no longer play in this event.
Sorry for any inconvienence caused.
Hollie

[Baillie, Stevie]

Bit of a nightmare Hollie as the programme has now been typesetted and your name is away to The Europeans for the draws etc.
Joanne now cannot play as she now has no partner for the team event.
Are you 100% that you cannot play?

[Stephen, Robert]

i see the draw has been made,some interesting groups

[Riddell, Hollie]

appoligies once again, I started a new job this week and they cannot grant me any time off at this moment in time.
I very much enjoy representing my country, however I`m sure you will appreciate work commitments have to come first.
Hollie

[Carlisle, Robert]

can anyone help me with the dates & times of when im playing so i can organise trains to an from the venue ? i cant see any dates & times on the web ! cheers:

[Stephen, Robert]

stevie i dont think i can make the opening ceremony,im tryin my best though to cancel my plans,will i still be able to play for the team if i missed it?

[Nardone, Anthony]

has the draws been made for this event yet???:o

[Baillie, Stevie]

Ross Vallance's parents called today to inform Scottish Snooker that Ross has injured his shoulder playing football today and has to call off from the European Team Cup due to the seriousness of the injury.

I called Richy McDonald to see if he could take up the empty slot?
Richy declined as he did not know if his back would stand up to the week of daily competitive play.

Michael Collumb, next on the list is getting back to me ASAP to see if he can get time off work to take part.

The two men awaiting to see who will join them are Thomas McSorley and Anthony McGill.

Watch this space.

[Poulain, Yannick]

Aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh If I was scottish!!
It would have been a pleasure to take this seat! Aspec with Thomas and Ant!

[McGill, Anthony]

What is happening then with the ETC? When and where is the opening cermony, and at what time? When are the matches starting?

[Carlisle, Robert]

Opening Ceremony is in The Jury's Inn Hotel on Saturday the 29th of March 2008 at 7:30pm. I know there is a Jury,s in Edinburgh! but i take it is not there?, what time does this finish as i have to get the train or bus home! still need to know days and times im playing please ?

[Stephen, Robert]

if you dont mind stevie could you answer my earlier post regarding the opening ceremony.

[Cruickshanks, Bobby]

just to say a big sorry to you guys, i will not be playing in this comp as i am very ill at home on antibiotics! am gutted to be missing this event really i am but what can i do, i wish you 2 guys all the best and my replacement and rest of the scottish lads, once again i am very sorry for this!:(

[Stephen, Robert]

could some1 let me know if bobbys replacement has been selected yet? its less than 24hours to go and i dont even know whats happening with the team im in

[Craig, William]

Hi Robert, I overheard someone last night saying that Bobby was back in. not 100% sure though.

[Baillie, Stevie]

Rest Easy Mate - Bobby has made a miracle recovery - so no change to your team.
Cheers

[Cruickshanks, Bobby]

yes am back in, i am feeling a little better so hopefully continue to feel better over the course of the comp. so hopefully get to the last 8 and i should be fully fit by then!

[Cruickshanks, Bobby]

not quite recovered yet! but hopefully if my partners can carry me through the group stages the i will be alot better by wed nite, hopefully!!

[Poulain, Yannick]

Ant and Thomas,

Please show the frenchies in your group what is snooker!!!

It would have been great to be there and give you some work to do boys!!

[Poulain, Yannick]

Ant, Thomas and Michael,

Congratulations!!
14/4 is a result I deserved. :D

Ant, I put you in my contact list on msn so as soon as you can, come and will have a chat.

[Poulain, Yannick]

Come On Stevie On Live Streaming!!

Come On Big Man!!:d

[Baillie, Stevie]

Thanks Bud
We just beat Bob McCabe and Davie Hutchison 7-3 so now in semis.

Ireland in Semis!

[Poulain, Yannick]

Ireland in semis with Mister Joe Delaney??!!

Great, i think you're gonna lift the scottish flag until the final.

C'mon the Scots!!

After that, Wales with Darren and Phil will not be the same story but anyway FIGHT!!

[Poulain, Yannick]

Sorry that you've lost on the decider Stevie and Sean!

[Baillie, Stevie]

Cheers mate.
It was a fantastic match though, but we lost narrowly 7-6 in a one frame shoot out from 6 all.
They deserved their win after fighting back to force the tie, and some of the safety exchanges where absolutely top drawer, especially from Joe Delaney.
Some of the cute, experienced, knowledgeable shots that he played kept u on the back foot at the nitty, gritty end of the match.
Not pretty to watch but very effective in the situation.

So well played to Brendan & Joe, they will have their work cut out just to stay with Darren Morgan & Phil Williams in the final.
Here's hoping it's a good one!
Good Luck to them all.

PS Just like to say to my playing partner and good mate Sean Boxall, thanks for the effort and great play over the week, just a pity we were edged out by the smallest of margins, but it was a great week and well done mate I thoroughly enjoyed it, hope you did too!
We'll try again another time bud.
Good Luck for The Scottish Snooker Masters National Championship.
Stevie B

[Craig, William]

Big well done to all the Scots in the E.T.C. No silverware this time but we are all very proud of the effort you guys put into it.

[Poulain, Yannick]

More sadness on me now as I saw my friend of my club coming back today!!! He told me!!

What a great venue! And a meeting with John Higgins, probably the only one i've never met before in the pros!
What a great city!! Very beautiful he told me!
What a nice hotel! With 2 lovely polish girls working in the hotel, lol :D !

No seriously, Stevie, why didnt you tell me that before????????????

Ahhhh Stevie you owe me something now!

[Boxall, Sean]

Thanks, I really enjoyed the week. Especially our 7-1 win over England! That yellow has been haunting me though, but as you say 'that's snooker'. All the best. Sean

[Baillie, Stevie]

Glad you enjoyed it mate.

And the yellow!?
Hey mate you made the decision to try it, if it goes you have the dish sitting there. Bravery mate. I would have done the exact same thing.

Remember - Faint heart never won fair Maiden! ;)

[Baillie, Stevie]

Appreciated maestro, just glad it looked smooth to the outside world because it has been a hive of activity in the background.
Hopefully, from what we have learned this week, we should have an even better, smoother running U19 Euro Event next week.

With a Main Tour place at stake The U19 Event should be a belter!

Good Luck to ALL (Scots)